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♪ ♪ >> i just called president obama to congratulate him. >> i congratulated him and paul ryan on a hard-fought campaign. >> i pray that the president will be successful in guiding our nation. >> we are an american family, and we rise or fall together. the task of perfecting our union moving forward. >> tonight, we are celebrating the year in the news, the winners, the losers, the person of the year. and we will hand out the donald trump award. all right, let's start with the most valuable player of 2012, alex wagner. >> in my book, it is david, you saw the beginnings, with dean, and obama. >> krystal? the most valuable player? >> probably to waiter who placed the camera at the mitt romney fundraiser and captured the 47% comments, which i think showed a lot of people their concerns about mitt romney and the fact he really was not there for all of america. that he didn't understand the problems that average americans were facing. >> let's listen to that little moment of video history. the 47%. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president, there are 47% of people who are

and failed to pass, so the large successors are not there. >> and paul ryan is another guy to watch. he is the guy who has the real support of the house conservatives and a lot of people who don't love boehner, they love paul ryan and ryan at the final minute of plan b and he was whipping for plan b and came out in support of plan b, and if paul ryan the most high profile guy who could be a consensus candidate against boehner is not even interested. >> if the president gets it through, doesn't this mean that going forward he has to negotiate with mitch mcconnell and what is the point of talking to the house republicans at this poi point? >> you to include john boehner because he is the speaker of the house, and in control of of the house, but you are making a fair point that the power of the republicans to drive the debate is being under question right now, and we are not sure how boehner can do it moving forward coming to the debt ceiling, and people will look at this experience on the fiscal cliff as an example of how john boehner may or may not drive the discussion. >> and also at th

he choose congressman paul ryan? guest: to a certain extent he was pressured into doing it by the mainstream republican establishment. i can tell you from the perspective of chicago, i was ridiculed a lot when i reported this, but they were really worried about tim pawlenty and they felt they could deliver some of those midwestern states in a way to ryan did not. ryan did not deliver his home state or even come close. towards the tail end of the campaign, he was not much of a presence. host: the announcement came at 9:00 in the morning, the last day of the olympics. why the timing? why not wait until the following week? if you're going to select congressman ryan, run on the rhine and budget. guest: they wanted to get it in before then but there was the massacre at the sikh temple. i don't know exactly what the study on why they did not wait, but i think romney saw a lot of himself in ryan. serious, cares about policy and ideas. i think he saw him as someone who could be a respectable running mate to help him politically what you could really help him. romney thought he w

. the logical successes aren't actually there. >> paul ryan is not the guy to watch, right? so paul ryan is the guy who has the real support of the house conservatives. a lot of people don't like boehner, they love paul ryan. now ryan, at the final minute, remember, he was with you for plan b. paul ryan, probably the most high profile guy, he's not running against boehner. he's not even interested. >> but robert, if the president gets this through, and i know that's a big if, doesn't this mean going forward, he just has to negotiate with mitch mcconnell? >> i mean, you always are going to have to include john boehner. he's a speaker of the house and a republican's control of the house. but i think you're making a fair point that the power to drive debate is being under-questioned right now. we're not sure how he can do it moving forward. people are going to look to this experience as how john boehner may or may not be able to drive this discussion. >> on this deal, things get thrown on to the table and then the base finds out and they get upset. what is a president's base going to get up

are having four people negotiate the budget. put it back into paul ryan's hands and let's lead. >> i heard paul ryan's name mentioned. of course, his office, don't look at us. we support boehner. but look, if there was some revolt, if this thing is real and people will start mentioning ryan and it builds and builds and builds, i mean would he be somebody who said no to that? >> i think he would say no very quick. he might have other plans perhapses in 2016 and running for speaker, win, lose or draw would be bad for all those plans. i consider are this rahmer to be a three beer rumor which is after about the third beer people like we should replace boehner and that sounds like a good idea and repeat that enough and then it becomes a rumor. look, the staff i talked to on the hill, even the members i talked to and even the members against boehner on plan b there is no true conversation to replace john boehner as speaker right now. >> laura: wouldn't that also be, chip, you you can stay on this, wouldn't that look disasterrous for republicans in the middle of the fiscal cliff thing they throw

nicky haley, hark corubio, paul ryan, pence, jeb bush and jim demint. joining >> stewe ask all of you, first all hello. >> hello. >> happy new year. we ask all of you to pick. i threw out my dozen. i asked you to pick two you will keep an extra eye on. we continue do the 2016 conversation now, but we'll do it in a few minutes. >> of my dozen which two jumped out to you. >> i'm a little nerdy, so i picked michael bennett, the colorado senator, because he's the new head of the democratic senatorial campaign committee, so he's tasked with trying to again to keep a democratic senate majority. >> he wants to be senate majority leader some day. >> they asked him two years ago. he said no he said yes this time. >> you also put mike pence up there. why mike pence? >> he spent time in congress, now the governor of indiana a guy who we underrate in terms of his influence. we've seen in places like ohio, florida, wisconsin, how governors can have influence on the conversation. pence is a conservative who is a believer. >> all right. perry? you picked two governors. >> jerry brown, really importa

. your other pick? >> paul ryan. >> yeah. >> obviously, as a democrat, somebody i'm watching for a long time. i think he came out of this race with a good reputation. and i think that, you know, he has a lot of opportunity this year. he's known as a reformer in the party. the republican party is doing a lot of introspection of what they need to do to address the changing demographics of this country and an opportunity to step up. >> how does he do it in the house? >> he is a leader in the house and known as ideological. this is an opportunity to open it up a little bit. >> kevin, you picked with the big two. >> yeah. well, i think marco rubio is one of the people i picked because i think to perry's point, people looking for a new diverse voice inside the republican party and i think whether he likes it or not, he'll be a national figure in that regard and going to sort of be emblem attic of the republicans' abilities and effort to reach out to newer audiences and they're also looking for people that are going to represent the future of the party. many conservatives will use i think marc

show category. paul ryan's pumped and ready to go. what's with the hat there? >> and what's an awards show without this guy. he survived a really rough year and he's looking just great tonight. the evening is about to get started. so take a seat before clint eastwood yells at it. sit back and enjoy the show. without further adieu, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome your master of ceremonies and the host of "politics nation," the reverend al sharpton. >> good evening. and welcome to "the revvie awards." i'm al sharpton and the host of this evening's festivities. it's a big night and we'll be giving out awards for the high and low points of politics in 2012. to do that, we have a star-studded cast of judges. all looking very elegant this evening, i might say. let's get right to it. let's go right to the first cat goir. let's get started with the best performer in the thriller award. ri richard, who made the best political move omt year? >> can i be the simon cowell of this panel? i i i'm tempted to say the woel obama campaign. but i don't want to be, like, time person of the year, it'

it to you, but republicans have been doing that for two years now. paul ryan has been beating the drum of entitlement reform for a long time. he's been demonized, and they've been running ads of him throwing grandma off the cliff. >> when's ryan making his comeback? when does marco rubio make his comeback? when do all of these fine governors make their comeback? i mean the republicans have a pretty deep bench. >> part of the calculation that i think conservatives and republicans are missing is that in this conversation, when we talk about a balanced approach, most -- a majority of middle class people, which is why 76% of americans are for taxing the rich, most americans have seen their defined benefits go down, their pensions decrease. so from their perspective and their wages have been stagnant at the same time -- hold on. >> whose fault is that? >> people are saying, wait, i've already given, what do you mean you want to cut more from my benefits so that the wealthy -- >> i've got to get out. >> they're not cutting benefits. but, larry, it's important to point out here that boehner's

, paul ryan. catholic sisters generated headlines on another front as well. the vatican issued a harsh rebuke of the umbrella group that represents the majority of american nuns. it accused the leadership conference of women religious of what it called "serious doctrinal problems," a charge the nuns denied. they began a time of dialogue with bishops appointed by the vatican to oversee them. meanwhile, lay catholics held a series of rallies in support of the sisters. yet another kind of nones also made news -- the "n-o-n-e-s." according to the pew research center, a record high number of americans-one in five-now describe themselves as having no religious affiliation. many of theseo-called nones held a lly whington t show their clout. but the nones are not completely secular. a new survey by pew and this program found that two-thirds of the unaffiliated say they do believe in god or a universal spirit. more than half describe themselves as "spiritual but not religious." advocates of gay marriage saw new momentum. in the november elections, three more states legalized same-sex marriage-

overtake him is paul ryan. there's really no indication that paul ryan wants to go against john boehner. in fact, from all the reporting that we've done, john boehner and paul ryan seem pretty close, even though they have differed on some things. it seems orchestrated, to be honest, and to give paul ryan potentially a chance later on maybe to be speaker when john boehner leaves. >> one more question for kristen. what happens to other issues like gun control and immigration? which one of those in particular would the president most likely top his agenda with? >> well, i think gun control right now certainly has been taking up the majority of the president's focus in light of the tragedy in connecticut, so what's interesting is several weeks ago we would have said immigration, but gun control has certainly moved up to the forefront. i think immigration is still going to be a big issue on president obama's policy agenda in the new year, but i do think gun control is going to be right up there with immigration. melissa? >> kristen, thank you. >> what do you think? >> i really think immigrat

with democrats. that's going to be interesting. and your other pick? >> paul ryan. you know, obviously, as a democrat, it's somebody i have been watching for a long time. mitt romney's running mate. i think he came out of this race with a good reputation. and i think that, you know, he has a lot of opportunities this year. he's known as a reformer in the party. the republican party is doing a lot of introspection of what they need to do to address the changing demographics in this country and he has an opportunity to really step up. >> how does he do it in the house, which is more difficult? >> he's a leader in the house and he's known as being idealogical. >> kevin, you picked -- you got the big two. >> marco rubio is one of the people i picked because i think, to perry's point, people are looking for new diverse voices inside the republican party. i think whether he likes it or not, marco rubio is going to become a national figure in that regard and he's going to sort of be emblematic of the republicans' abilities and their effort to reach out to newer audiences. and they're also loo

to love that, right? >> what's up gangsters? >> the next president of the united states, paul ryan. >> my veins run with cheese, bratwurst, a little spotted cow, leinie's. >> we will have the first permanent base on the moon. >> any old girlfriends here? >> maybe i should just do all the talking. >> i love you, ladies and women. >> i love you, women. >> binders full of women. >> today has been awesome, girl. >> whoa. >> i hope i am the tim tebow of the iowa caucuses. >> it's bull [ bleep ]. come on, man. >> okay, libya. >> come on, man. >> becky-stan. >> do you think reverend wright is off limits in this campaign? >> it's called romnesia. >> worst republican to put up against barack obama. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> oops. >> i can't be perfect. >> we don't need a ma'amby pamby leader. >> pumping a little iron. >> i got bit by a penguin. >> those small animals can be fer row shis. >> the naacp invites me, i'll go to their convention. >> i prepared a small chart here. >> arithmetic. >> it would take me too long to go through the math. >> stupid people are ruining america.

. its agenda has been embraced by the leadership. the chairman of the budget committee, paul ryan, very able member is the archetype of that agenda, which should make every tea party are very happy. so it's indistinguishable and date in no way to provide cover for all those moderate who want to do the right being. i don't think said people exist in the republican party. listen, the answer is grover norquist no new tax pledge. that alone would free the republican party to engage in good faith, sensitive negotiations. everybody knows that our taxes are now at an historic low in the contemporary era and they're going to go out sort of naturally. and with the aging of the population, i guarantee you will be somewhere around 22% gdp. wouldn't it be nice if we could acknowledge that and say what's the most bowl, efficient way to structure a tax system, probably progressive consumption tax direct it in ways to accomplish a whole host of object is. as long as you have that pledge to which members signed, it's hopeless. the republican party cannot be a player in any constructive resolution of th

believe not only did mitt romney stand up but also paul ryan and several hispanics did an excellent job to present a conservative reason to oust president obama. >> nobody remembers the flap over god was going to be on the platform. clint eastwood got all the attention. >> there is a certain rule here. republicans to have learn it. if the whole essence is a tightly choreographed event, then you do that. you put things to help you better, rubio was terrific and videos of the families, those were moving and nobody saw them because they were in the wrong hour, in the middle of it. don't say to clint eastwood, don't go out and wing it. there has been considerable cottage industry of finger pointing. most of loyal campaign ads are blaming romney himself. >> i it was struck by tom hamburger's piece that called the campaign campaign malpractice. there were so many mistakes it was obvious to the press. the republicans kept saying it was media bias but it was badly run campaign and the voters should showed it was clear. >> when he wee got to the debates, they had to thumb on one side, memorable

leave the guidance system off. >> previously, you mentioned the surprised that mitt romney chose paul ryan as a running mate. who did you think he would pick? >> good question. i thought tim pawlenty. running in these national races is really hard. i remember the day that -- we were leaving denver after the convention and we learned that, on the airplane, mccain had chosen sarah palin. so went to the front of the airplane to senator obama and senator biden had been newly selected as his running mate. he said i think i am reasonably smart. it took me like six months to figure out how to be a presidential candidate, how to deal with the stop light, how to -- the spotlight, how to deal with the national politics. she may be the smartest politician ever and she may be able to come out of alaska to handle all of this. but i will give her three weeks. three weeks to the day, she did her interview with katie couric, which effectively ended it for her. [laughter] i thought that they might make a conservative choice, someone who had at least a taste of the national stage or, which was more of

. the selection of paul ryan excited conservatives in a way romney himself had not. >> how many moments are there in an hour and a half? the president lost all of them in the first debate. the pictures tell the story of a man who phoned it in, panicking his supporters and providing an opening for romney. and finally the top three moments of the election best described as history-making politics. >> a supreme court decision upholding the constitutionality of obama care. consider what would have happened on the campaign trail if the high court had struck down the president's signature first-term achievement. >> at a certain point, i have concluded that for e me personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that i think same-sex couples should be able to get married. >> the first president to endorse same-sex marriage. good politics aimed at the base and most certainly history. >> and finally the number one political moment of the year is easy during elections. >> cnn projects that barack obama will be reelected president of the united states. >> we are greater than the sum of

romney when he was talking about the 47%, like paul ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false. i hate 20 go too far on a holiday metaphor, but if you go back and you read charles dickens, you see where the two gentlemen come to visit ebenezer scrooge on christmas eve and suggest to him that he might want to give a little to

security. so they propose and saw the same scenario when paul ryan put the budget out and because the american people rejected the kind of draconian cuts that the republicans want to make so, you know, that's a nonstarter in the senate. i think it's a nonstarter with the president. sure can pass the house but going nowhere past that. >> the smaller offer we hear that the president is making at 3:00, to congressional leadership, what kind of offer would you like to see the president make? >> well, there was some rumblings i think an hour ago that there was a -- something brewing i think in the senate that had a $400,000 threshold, that was i think a ten-year duration and also dealt with unemployment benefits and kept the estate tax from going back to 55% with a small exemption. i think that's the deal that democrats in the house would overwhelmingly support. i think the president would probably go along with that. again, the only question then would be whether speaker boehner allows that plan to come to the house floor knowing it wouldn't get a majority of republican votes. >> the

of right where people like paul ryan are yeah, we'll go along with that while raising spending on defense. so john boehner put the entire ideological kit bag of the republican party on display, and they couldn't even vote for that. at the end of the day, at the end of the day, now they're going to get nothing. because all the taxes will go up after the fiscal cliff. >> but hold on, because i think you're being too triumphant about this. the truth is you're right. democrats right now are probably winning the fight on taxes. >> definitely. >> but you know what? but the truth is the republicans are winning the fight on spending. because you know what is going to happen on january 1st? we're going to get that sequester. and i guarantee you, liberals are going to scream bloody murder about the cuts. the cuts are very significant. >> how harmless in the sequester are all of the entitlement programs. defense is going to get a $500 billion cut. >> that's true. i hate to see it. >> you know what? that actually is the only way you're ever going to cut defense. and they held harmless to most america

how that has played out for politicians liking to vault themselves onto the national stage. >>> paul ryan, what do we expect from him in 2013? >> obviously not where he would want to be, back in the house of representatives, not in the west wing helping to lead the country, but he's not going to fall back into the shadows. he's already continued to prove himself on the fiscal cliff as a key negotiator as somebody who john boehner is talking to -- >> ashley judd? >> what would this list be without star-studded powder. ashley judd is one that a lot of democrats are hoping could run against senate minority leader for mitch mcconnell. she's a main power, a fund-raising machine and eighth-generation kentuckyian who could take on mcconnell in his own state. >> probably watching that state today. a business kentucky fan. >>> for all the 13 to watch, we're putting a link to the article on our website. log-on. that's there as well as a whole lot more. >>> thomas roberts is up next. thomas, good to see you, i see it's a gray suit day. >> i got the memo. >>> next hour getting your driving gear

. today is fiscal fiesta! woo! will we see paul ryan racing for the bathroom? >> i kind of like krystal's. she was channelling michelle obama. got on the couch for -- meeting of the souls there. >> a special moment. i have to tell you. >> i also have some questions, like who's running? and be specific. >> do they double down or walk it back? >> people will be watching for the doubling down, walking back. >> or walking back. >> answers are in and this krystal ball is on a roll. see what i did there? >> today for look in to the crystal ball. >> you went there. >> that's the lovely cohost name and likes to point out. no, the parents were not hippies. >> i want to say that barack obama should win. >> why do you think barack obama should win? >> because he takes good care of us. >> what's wrong with mitt romney? is he mean to animals? i swear, she really did ask me that. four years from now, i'll be back and have to answer these questions and more all over again because i just learned that i'm expecting a new little politico next summer. maybe next time around, alec can explain it to her lit

is taken in the house for that on january 3rd. it would certainly mean a fight. you would have paul ryan, cantor saying, wait a minute, this guy forced a vote we didn't want to take, but that's what the president is trying to get boehner to do. give me a few republicans, says boim bhoim, i'll deliver democrats, i'll deliver senate and sign the bill and save 97% of americans from a tax hike. boehner might not be able to do it or might refuse to do it. that's the next step in this process. >> fascinating and perhaps unfortunate scenario. steve handelsman, thank you. >>> a group of democrats along with regular citizens took a shot at republicans today with their own symbolic ball drop outside the u.s. capitol, the group trying to send republicans a message to not on their words drop the ball on the middle class when it comes to offer tax breaks. >>> breaking news this evening in the murder of a capitol hill man shot in his car early monday morning. d.c. police have just released this video of two persons of interest. it is surveillance video from a nearby school. it's not known whether it w

. the third is a guy you may have heard of from wisconsin paul ryan, romney's running mate and they sort of represent the youth movement and there are a lot of people and boehner in boehner's world who don't trust mccarthy because he is very close to cantor. this is the kind of thing washingtonians built up to a frenzy over but the reality is there is not day-to-day parliamentary and more often than not they walk walk in lockstep but certainly there've been moments that stand up being one of them where you could see separate dynamics taking place between cancer and boehner that had them both looking over their shoulder. >> you mentioned paul ryan and i can go on without asking you about him and in the role that he has played in this congress and the degree to which his celebrity has embraced by the republicans who are as ambitious as he. he was the one who kind of got out in rows of the others and as mitt romney's running mate. everyone in the republican ranks happy to see him there and is there any resentment of of him clinics do they respect him as much for his brain and his ability wi

that he's a republican. >> number four rivalry, paul ryan versus marco rubio, the republican party already making jokes about 2016. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. we must speak to the aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> one of the fundamental challenges before us is to find an appropriate and sustainable role for government. and closing that gap between the dreams of millions of americans and the opportunities for them to realize them. >> now, that was the jack kemp dinner, they were joking about seeing each other at diners in iowa. both making conscious plays to have the gop reach out to the middle class, reach out beyond their base, the repudiation of mitt romney. are they on a collision course? >> this is a rivalry welcome. i mean, bring it on! this is what the republican party needs. >> the real battle will be rubio/ted cruz because they want to say i can lock up latinos. cruz, he's a texan, he's going to come in slinging. he's going to walk in and say, marco, you're not the only hot hispanic. >> they're both trying to craft this

and proposed by paul ryan and his budget. >> the whole reason this happened is the fiscal cliff that we are facing the fiscal cliff was supposedly because what the two sides couldn't agree to in 2011 they would make it so horrible that they would have to do something. now, they can't do anything big. we are not even sure tonight whether it would be something small to get through the fiscal cliff. >> sean: i think the president ought to fly to hawaii to play rounds 108, 109, 110. bill cunningham is a scratch golfer. i don't think he has played that many rounds in a year, have you? >> sean hannity we have is gone over the cliff. we are in the gully. $16.4 trillion of debt on top of us and obama says let's add 4 or are 5 trillion more. we have gone over the cliff already. >> sean: thank you both on what we are are calling america on the brink. the fiscal cliff battle continues right up to the very end. when we come back, former governor bill richardson will attempt to explain where president obama's leadership has been on the fiscal cliff showdown. a hannity one on one shootout and then se

and he tells me what? >> he already has this covered, to boehner's great credit. he brought paul ryan in, eric cantor in, mccarthy in who might be the one -- >> the guy from california. >> yeah. and he brought them all in on this plan "b" and all on the negotiations. so he's covered there. he needs mcconnell. if he can get mcconnell and a couple senate republicans, then -- >> what about the body of 40 or so tea partiers who are holdouts. how does he reach them? the ones necessary for any kind of majority? >> he doesn't necessarily need them. if he can get senate republicans, then -- >> is that his game right now to go around his hard core right? >> it is. because then the hard core right isn't just blaming john boehner for all the troubles of the world. they're also -- >> can he allow the house of representatives to work its will with the minority of republicans? >> yes, he can. >> glen, is this your view? if we get a solution next week, it's probably because the speaker allows a minority of republicans, maybe less than 100, to agree with some 120 democrats and out of that will be a deal

. >> not only that, boehner was smart in bringing cantor and mccarthy and paul ryan into the fold when he introduced plan "b." did he that strategically so it looked like a united front. he still got undercut. he will probably be re-elected speaker but he is a much more ineffectual speaker after what happened. >> sam, give me a snap prediction. what do you think the president will say in the briefing room today? >> he's going to wish everyone a happy new year and then say -- i don't know. i have no idea. things are changing by a minute-to-minute basis. i have a guess he will probably say this ball is now in the senate's court. he's going to encourage them to get something done and put the weight of the presidency behind it. >> okay. thanks sam stein and robert costa, appreciate that. >>> coming up, will 2013 become the year of the perpetual fiscal crisis? when will businesses say enough? in case you haven't noticed it, the dow has been slipping as we korean toward the deadline. if we go over the cliff, are we looking at a potential -- next week? >>> we'll provide live coverage of presiden

together plan. paul ryan, the big deficit guy, or so he says, he was on the simpson-bowles commission, and he voted against it, as did every other house republican on the commission. the white house saw no reason to embrace something that raised taxes so sky high and so the white house brought out something that was frankly to the right of simpson-bowles. their budget was to its right and they thought it had a better chance of passing. they thought it was a compromise. but the house republicans did not respond the same way. when they brought out the ryan budget, which was their budget alternative, they didn't compromise. they went way to the right. there was no compromise in it at all. that is fact number one. number two, in 2010 republicans won the midterm election. 2011 the white house agreed to a deal that was all spending cuts. it is the budget control act. it cuts spending by $1.8 trillion over the next decade. except for an increase in pell grants, the bill is all cuts, no taxes. and democrats agree to that. they agreed. that is fact number two. fact number three. at this point

ideology in play, folks who i think like mitt romney when he was talking about the 47%, like paul ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false. i hate 20 go too far on a holiday metaphor, but if you go back and you

hit the wall. the new tax revenue plan called for was too high. paul ryan said he could not sign on because it did not make structural changes in entitlements. are kemp and ryan two guys who are bucking the speed. ? does speaker boehner have to -- are kemp and ryan two guys who are bucking the speaker? guest: a leadership guide is -- a leaders of guy is supposed to be a little bit ahead of his path. his pac was back here saying no. -- a leadership kind is supposed to be ahead of his pack. they are saying, he needs to be -- you need to be back here with us. you are seeing in those two guys, the two of texas. ryan says, if we are going to do this deal, we need to see reforms in entitlements. that is the one issue president obama has put on the table, potential limits to social security cost-of-living increases. what congressman kemp is talking about is that the tax rates are not the way to do this. they are saying, we are ready for a broad deal as long as it tackles everything. neither boehner nor obama has been talking about a big broad deal that deals with all tax rates and the e

for was too hi. paul ryan said he could not sign on because it did not make structural changes in entitlements. are camp and ryan two guys that are bucking the speaker? does boehner have to woo these guys over? here is the issue. boehner is a dealmaker. he wants to get deals done. the problem in this case is that he rented a blow ahead of where the house republicans were. -- he ran too far ahead of where the house republicans were. he was too far ahead of the pack. what happened with plan b is that they were pulling the leash and saying that he need to be .skback where they were what you are saying are the two big objections. if we're going to do this deal, we need to see real reforms in entitlement. that is the one sort of issue that president obama has put on the table, which is potential limits to future social security costs living increases. camp is talking about the tax rate is not the way to go about doing this. what you are looking at here is these guys saying that they are ready for a big and broad deal as long as it tackles everything. neither boehner or obama has been talking about

virginia. caller: hi. .ost: you are on, sir caller: the hero i have is paul ryan. he is very intellectual when it comes to finances. the hero for 2012. host: could you expand why he's your hero? caller: what he outlined when he was one for vice president is what i am basing it on. host: has he always been a hero of yours? caller: i had been paying attention to him even before this. host: then the vice presidency run added to that. caller: yes. host: what would you like to see out of him? caller: to run again and be the president of the united states. host: that is jim from virginia. we have been talking about political heroes. we will talk to you about who you missed the most with the least when it comes to congress. congressional departures, who you missed the most and least. we will have a discussion about foreign policy. joining us will be eli lake. we will talk about some of the major events this year and on going in terms of foreign policy. later up, juan williams from fox news. we will take up those discussions as we continue "washington journal" on this christmas day. [video clip]

to continue the tax -- lower tax rates for all americans. we want to go to the tax reform that's in the paul ryan budget. the house of representatives has already pass ed twice the ryan budget, which reforms taxes for all americans, takes the top rate to 25%, which is what the europeans do for the business community. we want to go there. how do you get there? i'm not sure that defeating plan b strengthens our ability to get there. i think, in fact, that plan b was a good step in the right direction towards protecting and continuing the tax cuts for everybody. >> and do you think that republicans sort of shot themselves in the foot because they defeated this. at the end of the day, the votes might be there for tax increases that from the republican perspective, are even worse than what the speaker offered that they wouldn't let him even bring up for a vote. >> as i read the speaker's proposal, plan b, i thought it moved us in the direction of maintaining all the bush tax cu cuts. look, this is not a fight that begins and ends the first week of january. there's going to be a regular fight on t

there are more compelling person. host: like who? guest: the guy that used to work for me, paul ryan, is a very well spoken young man. there are other people. tim scott, congressman from south carolina. but there are others. i was saying on my radio show we have a strong bench. the bench is now in the field. those guys are out there. bobby jindal and scott walker susana martinez. new kind of republicans. they understand the modern world a little better. there are lots of candidates. who the speaker is matters less than the party getting back to its core message. host: return to gun control on twitter. guest: all of our wars, no? wincsince when? be.ldn't t host: making the point about guns in america. guest: guns are lethal weapons. article in "the atlantic" magazine. the concealed carry permit allows people to carry guns. people have concealed carry permits are very careful with their guns. the arrest rate for people with concealed carry permits is lower than the arrest rate for police officers. they do not abuse the privilege of carrying a gun. there is a notion that the gun is a source of cor

, not going to lead to a better outcome.-- senator paul ryan. neither party is willing to address that because it requires tough choices americans are not willing to hear about. the only person in a position to tell them about that is the man in the white house, because he does not have to run for reelection. he the only guy with term limits. taxes --k taxes -to guest: think about all the gaming that would go on into that. from a theoretical perspective, real income being taxed would be better than taxing nominal income, which is what you are talking about, being taxed the same real income the same. unfortunately, that would likely be to all kinds of costs that would far outweigh the benefits. as it is, we computer and consumer price index in each region of the country. it is subject to criticism because there are limits to what economists can do. i don't think economists should have that responsibility. host: let's go to belleville, michigan, denise is an independent. caller: good morning. it's an honor to speak to you, professor. it quickly reply to that republican, the bill but the senators

in terms of how much romney they wanted to show. host: why did he choose congressman paul ryan? guest: to a certain extent he was pressured into doing it by the mainstream republican establishment. i can tell you from the perspective of chicago, i was ridiculed a lot when i reported this, but they were really worried about tim pawlenty and they felt they could deliver some of those midwestern states in a way to ryan did not. ryan did not deliver his home state or even come close. towards the tail end of the campaign, he was not much of a presence. host: the announcement came at 9:00 in the morning, the last day of the olympics. why the timing? why not wait until the following week? if you're going to select congressman ryan, run on the rhine and budget. guest: they wanted to get it in before then but there was the massacre at the sikh temple. what thenow exactly study on why they did not wait, but i think romney saw a lot of himself in ryan. serious, cares about policy and ideas. i think he saw him as someone who could be a respectable running mate to help him politically what you cou

. >> previously, you mentioned the surprised that mitt romney chose paul ryan as a running mate. who did you think you would pick? >> -- who did you think he would pick? >> that is a very good question . good questiontim pawlenty -- good question. i thought tim pawlenty. running in these national races is really hard. i remember the day that -- we were leaving denver after the convenon and we learned that, on the airplane, mccain had chosen sarah palin. so went to the front of the airplane to senator obama and senator biden had been newly selected as his running mate. he said i thi i am reasonably smart. it took me like six months to figure out how to be a presidential candidate, how to deal with the stop light, how to deal with the national politics. she may be the smartest politician ever and she may be able to come out of alaska to handle all of this. but i will give her three weeks. three weeks to the day, she did her interview with katie couric, which effectively ended it for her. [laughter] i thought that they might make a conservative choice, someone who had at least a taste of the national

-simpson. the president didn't support it. paul ryan didn't support it. it didn't have the kind of bipartisan consensus we needed. gotten us $4 in spending cuts for one dollar in revenue increase. bottom line we lack common purpose as a nation. both parties i believe are to be blamed. gregg, as we go to the end of the year and the christmas season i would hope we would have a common purpose, put partisanship aside and say how do we put the nation first? sadly, no one is doing that. gregg: it is interesting what doug just said, terry. i want you to react to that. he says both sides will get blamed. why is it the polls show only republicans really get the blame? >> well the president has the bully pulpit. he has the ability to go out and have campaign speeches and control the national debate in a way that the house republicans simply don't have. the president has the ability to shape the opinions that are being made about, and how the news is being covered. so he has a huge advantage and he has demonstrated time and again to demonstrate campaign tactics over the nuts and bolts of policy and debate here in w

replace him with? i did not think paul ryan has an interest in doing it. the republicans should be sitting down and asking themselves why they let the democrats define the rules of debate on the fiscal cliff. the house should have passed a bill saying you cannot use money for medicare to finance obamacare. the plan to finance obamacare and the house should have passed a bill on that. or how about passing a bill that any reform of entitlements -- medicare and social security -- cannot involve taking away benefits from those on the system today and those about to go on the system. you can make good reforms to young people. they should have passed a tax simplification bill. host: next call comes from john in pennsylvania, republican line. caller: good morning. president eisenhower, the rate for the top taxpayers never went below 91%. now we cannot seem to get it up to 39%. in 2001, we had the largest budget surplus ever. 10 years later it would have the largest deficit ever. in 2001, we had $5 trillion in debt. we gained $10 trillion in debt in less than 10 years. $5 chilean was because of th

is in power, if paul ryan was enacting his budget, we would be raising the debt ceiling right now. and he, too, would have a problem with this group of people. >> you know, there's a front-page piece in "the times" either yesterday -- or maybe today, i'm not sure. i lose track of my days at my age. >> what age is that? >> indicating that the power of the tea party within the house -- >> yeah. >> -- has been diminished somewhat because of the elections. do you agree with that? >> yes, but they still have enough numbers to affect the course of legislation. what happened with john boehner right before they departed where he couldn't get that plan "b" vote passed was amazing. to have a rebuke like that of the speaker of your own party over something that was relatively minor in scope. i mean, he could have had the grand deal. he went back and said, i need this for my own political benefit. we need to get rid of this issue that we're holding everything hostage to protect millionaires so that we can negotiate from a better vantage point. please trust me with this. and he went to his caucus with that

cuts during the campaign, mitt romney and paul ryan and all the republicans, who wanted to do the exact same thing he did, they jumped on his case for proposing cuts to medicare. so how can you negotiate with a party that isn't serious about its own caucus, and isn't capable of controlling them and doesn't have a serious plan for dealing with spending cuts on its own, because it's afraid to take the heat? nobody wants to cut spending. let's just admit that. but if we're going to do it, somebody's got to take the heat and the republicans have been the party advocating it for so long, so take the heat republicans and tell us exactly what you're going to do. are you going to cut mortgage interest deductions, charitable deductions, federal and state tax deductions? let us know where you're going to do to pay for this debt reduction that you want. >> the fact of the matter is, it's not going to get done with just spending cuts or increased taxes, it's going to have to be a combination of both, and right now the worst part of it is, and i think where we see the instability, especially when it

did not think paul ryan has an interest in doing it. the republicans should be sitting down and asking themselves why they let the democrats define the rules of debate on the fiscal cliff. the house should have passed a bill saying you cannot use money for medicare to finance obamacare. the plan to finance obamacare and the house should have passed a bill on that. or how about passing a bill that any reform of entitlements -- medicare and social security -- cannot involve taking away benefits from those on the system today and those about to go on the system. you can make good reforms to young people. they should have passed a tax simplification bill. host: next call comes from john in pennsylvania, republican line. caller: good morning. president eisenhower, the rate for the top taxpayers never went below 91%. now we cannot seem to get it up to 39%. in 2001, we had the largest budget surplus ever. 10 years later it would have the largest deficit ever. in 2001, we had $5 trillion in debt. we gained $10 trillion in debt in less than 10 years. $5 trillion was because of the bush tax cuts

chosen wisconsin congressman paul ryan. >> the next vice president of the united states. >> it's all about the economy for this election. >> we can't tell you you're better off. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is alive! >> high-profile distractions for the republican party. >> it's a limit rape. the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down. >> that's just not true. >> i was misinformed. >> romney defending comments secretly recorded at a private fundraiser. >> 47% of them believe they're victims. >> it's not eloquently stated. >> no one can make this country a better place. >> we can get this country working again. >> i accept your nomination for president of the united states! >> we've got so much more to do. >> governor romney, he's a good deba debater. i'm just okay. >> round one, romney. >> your entitled to your own house and airplane, but not your own facts. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for a lost round. >> that's a bunch of malarky. >> they brought us whole binders full of wom

if someone to his right, that caucus shrinks more. >> clayton: and some-- >> you've heard paul ryan and eric cantor. >> clayton: he was speaking and saying no, those won't be the individuals up. >> dave: i don't think we'll see that. >> clayton: fascinating. >> juliet: we'll see some severe weather, wild weather into the northeast right now. and people are still having last week's snow. as you can see, the plows are sitting by, getting ready to get out there, and throwing the salt on the ground and we're going to go to maria molina right now for an update on what's happening, maria? >> hey, good morning. good to see you. good morning, everyone, we have another snowstorm coming into the northeast just after on thursday 20 inches of snow across places of parts of upstate new york and new england and hit with that storm and another round. the good news for the system it's not forecasted to be anywhereas strong as last one was. it will be in later this morning and out by later this evening and through tonight. across portions of the southeast we have been dealing with some areas of heavy rain an

senator ran paul, representative john lewis wrote another book, across that rich about his experience. senator marco rubio, biography and american son. representative tim ryan, an inflammation. her single practice can reduce stress, improve performance and recapture the american spirit. a little off the beaten path for members of congress, senator tom coburn, the debt on and robert draper has written a book about congress. do not ask what do we do inside the u.s. house of representatives. do either of you look for these books to make him out by members of congress are politicians? >> guest: i certainly note them, but a few at least from a standpoint that these books are a way to entrench these of congress not only in positions, but potentially to position them for future runs within their current offices are maybe something different. it seems as if it's more of a calling card and furthering careerist authors. the authors of books is yet another feather in the cap of politicians. deshaies a way of announcing to the public that they are part of the larger conversation. >> host: it's go

books this past year including center rand paul, "government bullies," representative john lewis rose across that bridge about his experience. senator marco rubio, biography, an american son, representative tim ryan, a mindful nation, a single practice can reduce stress, improved performance and recaptured the american spirit. a little off the beaten path for members of congress, senator tom coburn, the debt bomb and robert draper has written a book about congress, do not ask what good we do:inside the u.s. house of representatives. do either of you look for these books when they come out by members of congress or politicians? >> i certainly note them but i feel as if from my sense these books are way too entrenched members of congress not only in positions but potentially to position them for future runs weather within their current offices or something different so it seems as if it is more of a calling card than it is furthering their career as doctors , certainly being authors of books. it is a way of announcing to the public they are part of a larger conversation. >> i wonder how

and ryan i want to get you in on this. what she is saying is chuck hagel is now the decoy. you see some people being behind michelle. and one of those luminaries bill kristol, paul wolfewitz has praised her. is this a back handed strategy to build support for the first potential defense secretary? >> i think it almost has to be. because it would be so easy to put him out there and defeat a republican. because it would be a political win/win for him then. if he gets confirmed, then they've got hagel. if he doesn't, then republicans look insanely obstructionist by blocking somebody in their own party from joining the cabinet. so why couldn't obama do that? one answer might be that he doesn't actually want him to be his first choice. you know, especially coming after the entire susan rice thing. they could have forced republicans to knock down susan rice in a more official way. but they let him get away without more heat. >> i love the idea that instead of a republican no offense to the republican party believe it or not coming from me, i would love to see this woman be nominated because a

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